PrintHillary’s covert operations against Trump
This is a transcript of the second video of James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas Action (PVA) investigating the covert operations behind the Hillary campaign in particular and Democratic vote-stealing activities in general.
Given the nature of investigative journalism where the scene cannot be set, the video can be a bit abrupt and a bit difficult to understand the audio although there are captions on a lot of the frames. This piece puts together the complete drama that James O’Keefe is telling in this second video.
This video focuses mostly on Scott Foval, although we identify other players when they are speaking. In this video, Scott Foval’s lead affiliation is identified as People for the American Way, which was prior to his affiliation with Americans United for Change which was used in the first video.
Note I: These used to be called “Dirty Tricks.” Woodward and Bernstein would have made this look like Seven Days in May (you youngsters look it up).
Note II: There is no perfect organizational method for a production that is broken up – inevitably, no criticism – like this one. I have broken it up into sections divided by commentary by James O’Keefe or Project Veritas Action. Where each piece appears on the video – the time – is in the Video column.
Note III: The border lines of the table are left in to help the eye.
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Second Video SECTION I (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group |
“You could fuck your mother in front of the governor and not go to jail. |
0:11 |
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Cesar Vargas |
Dream Action Coalition Founder |
“What’s the goal of overall campaign, right? Yeah and for me I totally get it, this is illegal, this is something that can be done.” |
0:17
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[PVA journalist: “And I assume you don’t go off and tell these conversations to anybody?”] “No, no, no.” |
0:26 |
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[PVA journalist: “Because this is technically…you know…voter fraud.”] |
0:29 |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor ---------------------- The Foval Group |
“However, other people can make things happen that you don’t need to know about.” |
0:32 |
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“We talk about lots of things that we don’t talk about.” |
0.:38 |
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“You know what? We’ve been busing people in to deal with you fuckin’ assholes for fifty years, and we’re not going to stop now.” |
0:39 |
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James O’Keefe: “This is Part II of our undercover investigation into the dark, backroom dealings of the Hillary Clinton campaign. Part I blew up on social media, with many Americans wondering why the mainstream media wasn’t covering the story. In fact, Project Veritas Action had television exclusives lined up around the country. Those television stations spiked the story at the last minute. Our sources tell us the reason they did so was fear of retaliation and retribution from a future Hillary Clinton administration. Truth is dangerous, especially when it challenges those in power. In this video, Democratic operatives tell us how to successfully commit voter fraud on a massive scale.” |
0:46 |
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Second Video SECTION II (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Aaron Black |
DNC Rapid Response Coordinator |
“So I’m basically the response director – the guy that responds for the DNC for all things Trump on the ground. Nobody is really supposed to know about me.” |
1:37 |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group
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“No, I’m saying we have mentally ill people that we pay to do shit. Make no mistake. This guy, Cesar Vargas is his name. I bot a priest to cry on camera once.” “You know, Brad and Bob [Creamer] and Lux and myself are all part of the old school method, where it doesn’t matter what the friggin’ legal and ethics people say, we need to win this motherfucker. |
1:46 |
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“So Bob [Creamer] is really the president and talked to him this afternoon and they’re all in if we can get 25 grand they’re all in.” |
2:13 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “Our investigators wanted to find out what it would take to get the highest favorable turnout. Democrat politico Scott Foval was our target and he was more than willing to lead us through the process of how to rig an election.” |
2:22
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Second Video SECTION III (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group
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“We did it to them when we were in charge too.” “What we did…we did the exact same thing. Only, we manipulated the vote with money and action, not with laws.” |
2:34 |
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“It’s a very easy thing for Republicans to say, well, they’re busing people in. Well you know what? We’ve been busing people in to deal with you fuckin’ assholes for fifty years and we’re not going to stop now. We’re just going to find a different way to do it.” |
2:47 |
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“So, I mean I grew up with that idea. They used to bus people out to Iowa. If we needed people out there, we’d bus people out to Iowa.” |
3:00 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “When we met Scott Foval, he worked for People for the American Way, an organization funded in large part by George Soros. He now works for Americans United for Change. It’s a non-profit that claims to ‘move America in a new, better direction.’ With guys like Foval working for them, we wonder what direction that might be.” |
3:11 |
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Second Video SECTION IV (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group |
“When I do this, I think as an investigator first. “ [PVA journalist: “Yeah, work backwards, yes, that’s great.”] “I used to do investigations. A different…method. I think backwards from how they would prosecute if they could, and then try to build out the method to avoid that.” |
3:32 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “The plan that was discussed was how to bring people from one state to another state to vote illegally.” |
3:54 |
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Second Video SECTION V (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group
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“They could invalidate…well, OK, let’s just say in theory if a major investigation came up, of major vote fraud that way, how would they prove it? And who would they charge?” |
4:00 |
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“Are they going to charge each individual of voter fraud? Or are they going to go after the facilitator for conspiracy, which they could prove? It’s one thing of all these people drive up in their personal cars. If there’s a bus involved? That changes the dynamic.” |
4:18 |
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“It’s the legality. Because you can prove conspiracy if there’s a bus. If there are cars, it’s much harder to prove.” |
4:42 |
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“If there’s enough money, you have people drive their POV’s (personally owned vehicles), or you have them drive rentals.” “Yeah. With Wisconsin license plates. Absolutely.” |
4:52 |
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“Well you can’t have them with Wisconsin license plates because rentals here…most of them don’t have Wisconsin license plates.” |
5:05 |
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“But, there’s this thing called used car auctions.” “Used car auctions, the titles belong to some unknown company. They’re company cars.” [PVA journalist: “And you know these are multiple “employers,” these are not just one “employer.”] |
5:12 |
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“So you use shells. Use shell companies. Cars come from one company; the paychecks come from another. There’s no bus involved, so you can’t prove that it’s en masse, so it doesn’t tip people off.” |
5:29 |
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“When I do this, I think as an investigator first.” “I used to do the investigations. A different method…I think backwards from how they would prosecute if they could, and then try to build out the method to avoid that.” |
5:49 |
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“If the car has a Wisconsin license plate and it’s owned by a third entity, then it’s much harder to prove that these people drove in from out-of-state. There’s no bus involved, so you can’t prove conspiracy.” |
6:21 |
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[PVA journalist: “And they would have to be looking for them in the first place.”] “Oh, a bus is something |
6:41 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “Our journalists helped brainstorm with Foval and how to come up with addresses for their phony voters.” |
6:50 |
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Second Video SECTION VI (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group
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[PVA journalist: “Now, if we just had the canvassers logging the homes, they don’t even have to know why they’re doing it.”] “Put a mark on it.” [PVA journalist: “And say, this address…we have moved, but moves could mean someone else moved in.” “And then take that data, and flip it out, and you give it to people, and you have people go vote in it. That’s brilliant. I love it.” |
6:55 |
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[PVA journalist: “So, you know…and it sort of depends upon, you know, how much…the canvassers don’t have to know why they’re…they just need to be told to do it.”] “No, in fact you don’t want them to know.” |
7:15 |
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“The question is whether when you get caught by a reporter, does that matter? Because does that turn into an investigation or not? In this case, in this state, the answer is ‘no,’ because they don’t have any power to do anything.” |
7:26 |
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[PVA journalist: “So, this is maybe not stuff for the general, but stuff to maybe hold off until…”] “No, I think you should do it for the general.” “You have to do it in multiple states.” |
7:42 |
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“So, what you do is you implement the plan on a much bigger scale.” “You implement a massive change in state legislatures and in Congress.” “So you aim higher for your goals, and you implement it across every Republican-held state.” |
7:55 |
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[PVA journalist: “So, starting on the grassroots…”] “Honestly, the ripest environment to do it in? Two, within striking distance. Michigan, Indiana.” |
8:22 |
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“The least restrictive donation caps and campaign finance laws and investigative arms, and any of that. Like, they have weakened it so bad in these three states, you could fuck your mother in front of the governor and not go to jail. If you had enough money to go like this. |
8:34 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “Foval then told our journalist that he knew the guy who made stuff like this happen.” |
8:57 |
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Second Video SECTION VII (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group |
So Bob Creamer comes up with a lot of these ideas. I work with Bob Creamer one to one all the time. I’m the white hat. Democracy Partners (Bob Creamer) is kind of the dark hat. I will probably end up being a partner there at some point, because our philosophy is actually the same. |
9:01 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “Bob Creamer founded Democracy Partners in 2011. He is the husband of Jan Schakowski, a Democratic Congresswoman from Chicago. And in 2005, he pled guilty on tax violations and bank fraud. He was convicted and sentenced to five months in prison and 11 months of house arrest.” |
9:23 |
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Second Video SECTION VIII (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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PVA journalist (to Bob Creamer) & Bob Creamer |
Project Veritas Action
Democracy Partners Founder and Partner |
[PVA journalist (to Bob Creamer): “One of the things that Steve was talking to Scott (Foval) about, he passed on to me and I think one of the reasons why I got in touch with you.”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: “Uh-huh.” -------------------- [PVA journalist: “They envisioned…what do you need to be able to vote? In some of these voter…What do you really need, ok?”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: (Nods head) “Right.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: What makes you a citizen?”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: (Nods head) “Yeah.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “And if you look at that checklist, it’s an ID card of any kind, and it shows you who you are…”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: (Nods head) “Right.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “…and a pay stub that shows you’re getting paid at a local address someplace.”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: “To get registered you mean.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Yeah. To get registered. So, you go in to register, if you have those two things, your registered to vote.”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: “Yeah.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “So, let’s say I have business in side, say, Illinois or Michigan, and I hired people, and I had addresses for them, I could write them checks for those…I could use them as day laborers or whatever and use them and find my way around the voter ID, the registration laws for Hispanics.”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: (Nods head.) --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Umm, that’s one thing, actually that idea, when he gave it to me, it was like ‘that sounds like something we could register huge numbers of people that way.’ That kind of thing kind of stuck in my craw when he (you?) mentioned it to me.”] --------------------- |
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Bob Creamer |
Democracy Partners Founder and Partner |
Bob Creamer: “Alright. Let me, on that front, I’m gonna write down these options. Let me see if I can uhh, chat with people who are most involved in Hispanic voter registration.” “And, uh, I can see what their thoughts are. I mean there are a couple of different organizations that are…that’s their big trick.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Okay, yeah, if you know folks that you can put me in touch with.”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: “We’ll help you do this. This is very important, this stuff. Turnout is huge, huge, huge. |
11:00 |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group |
“Bob Creamer is diabolical and I love him for it. I have learned so much from that man over the last twenty years, I can’t even tell you. And he calls me to be his firefighter a lot of the time, because there are people, who, in our movement who will not do what it takes to get shit done.” |
10:25 |
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“And I am not that person. I’m the one they send when everything has gone to shit. So, he spends a lot of time on the phone with my boss asking me to go places that I don’t wish to go.” |
11:58 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “We had our…”donor”…set up a second meeting with Bob Creamer to see how he could help put this voter fraud plan into motion.” |
12:11 |
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Second Video SECTION IX (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Bob Creamer |
Democracy Partners Founder and Partner |
[PVA journalist: “This is re-enfranchising voters. That’s how I look at it, okay? If I could, through my company, employ these people for a day, okay, or for a week or for a month, okay? Then I could find work for them, useful work for them, so we can issue corporate ID’s for them.”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: “Here’s my fear…I’m going to run this by our lawyers. --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Okay.”] --------------------- Bob Creamer: “My fear is that someone would decide that this was a big voter fraud scheme. And…” |
12:18 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “Creamer hesitated to help our…”donor”…pull off the voter fraud scheme that Foval created.” |
13:00 |
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Second Video SECTION X (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group |
“Bob (Creamer) came back to me and asked me, ‘What is he talking about?’ I told him what we were talking about. And he said, ‘Well I’m not going to touch that with a ten-foot pole now.’ I go, ‘Nor should you.’” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Good advice.”] --------------------- “Nor should you. He goes, ‘Good. I’m glad we’re on the same page there.’ I said, ‘However, other people can make things happen that you don’t need to know about.’” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “So that’s where I think this goes.”] --------------------- “But you do understand, he’s still gonna have to know about it.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Um, Mr. Creamer?”] --------------------- “Yes.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Well, I mean, is that okay? As long as it’s outside of…”] --------------------- [Foval waves his hand dismissively, indicating that it is okay.] “We talk about lots of things that we don’t talk about.” |
13:05 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “Foval told us about a guy in New York that works with Creamer a lot. We wondered if he was the guy who could pull off the voter fraud scheme.” |
13:47 |
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Second Video SECTION XI (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group |
“This guy named Cesar Vargas. Is his name. So, Bob (Creamer) is really good friends with him and talked to him this afternoon.” |
13:55 |
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Project Veritas Action (PVA) Commentary “Vargas is an interesting character. He is the co-founder of the Dream Action Coalition, a New York lawyer, and a “DREAMer” himself. Born in Mexico, Vargas is an undocumented alien. |
14:04 |
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Second Video SECTION XII (the sections are our designation, not PVA’s) |
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Cesar Vargas |
Dream Action Coalition Co-founder |
[PVA journalist: “What he (their fictitious donor) wants in the simplest terms, wanting, was – he had this idea and Scott (Foval) made it seem possible, but said it was impossible to do now…essentially, getting a bunch of people on a bus, or whatever. Taking them around the country. They legally can vote. So they can vote. At the same time, they’re also getting work permits under a different name and again voting on behalf of people who cannot vote.”] --------------------- “Yeah, I would have to like say you know, can we make something special during midterm elections in 2018?” |
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“Like I said, this is not gonna happen this election.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “I know that.”] --------------------- “So I think it’s about, for us, let’s see who the next president is. If it…if it’s Donald Trump, it even makes more sense. The issue will be more credible and much more opportunity for us to jump in to this.” “If it’s Secretary Clinton, and the voting ID laws are loosening, and we have much more opportunity for people to vote, and we have immigration reform, it’s not going to be as significant, right?” |
15:01 |
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[PVA journalist: “If we cross that bridge, can I tell him that you’re the one who can possibly help us do that?”] --------------------- “Yeah, absolutely, I mean, count me in.” --------------------- [PVA journalist: “And I assume you don’t go tell these conversations to anybody?”] --------------------- No, no, no. No, absolutely, absolutely. --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Because this is technically, you know, voter fraud.”] --------------------- “As an activist, do we want to do this? Do we want to take the chance? Let’s talk about it.” |
15:28 |
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Scott Foval |
People for the American Way Deputy Political Director --------------------- Americans United for Change (AUFC) National Field Director --------------------- Democracy Partners Advisor --------------------- The Foval Group |
“We have to do a better job of making out people do what they’re supposed to do. Not asking them. Making them. Not expecting them and taking them for granted, but beating the shit out of them and then making them do it. “ --------------------- [PVA journalist: “Like voters?”] --------------------- “Yeah.” |
15:46 |
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James O’Keefe: “America, our series of videos, from this investigation will continue, up until the election. People ask me, ‘James, what can I do?’ Here’s what you can do. Send this video to every single person you know. Demand…the mainstream media play these tapes. Email the journals. Tweet the journals. And remember, the truth is dangerous, especially when it challenges those in power.” |
16:01 |
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